Question about sex

[Swedenkakariki]

Hello everyone. My name is Lotta and I live in Sweden and have had kakariki few years. Now I have taken care of a brother and sister, but I'm very unsure of their gender, but they said a female and a male. My own and their children have been easy to tell the difference between these two new but are so small, really small. They are 4 years old but less than my 2 month baby birds .. (my kakariki is like sumo wrestlers :)) I'm not sure of them that said, can someone cleverer than me see the gender difference?
Whoever is alone in the pictures - will certainly be a male, is that correct?
I hope I put the question in the right forum, english is not my forte.
(they moult some right now ...)
Grateful for the help :)

[Swedenkakariki]

sorry - 2 same picture
but here:

[Swedenkakariki]

and both of the new

[Steptoe]

Top could be female next male thwe last to hard to tell the becks are not formed properly possible males..
The small size...well they do look a bit runty, beaks distored, feathers in not good condition...maybe the parents where on bad diets raiseing them???

And no issue with your English at all.

[Swedenkakariki]

Thanks, it was nice of you :) Well, they look all little tidbits out - they've only been with me for 1 week and I did not get as much info out of the girl who left them here ...
this card is on my own breeding Babbles father and his daughter on the right for 1 week ago :)

[Swedenkakariki]

Left a self bred, thug, who woos the new one I asked about - he has even entered this guy. I've never had someone who fed guy to guy of my Kaks so therefore, I was not sure if there really is a guy on the right. On the left I have raised myself so that I know it is a male and it's quite a big difference to them which makes it so difficult to see what the two new ones for sex

[Steptoe]

Get rid of those wooden dowel perches... I have no idea why bird cage manufactures persist in using them...
Get some good sized branches between 3/4 and 2" in diameter.

[Swedenkakariki]

[Steptoe]

Those wooden sticks provided with bird cages should not be used...
larger diameter branchs are best... gives the birds better balance at roost.
Which is maybe why they do not go back to the security of the cages at night.

What I do notice with your birds , is the nice clean crowns, no sign of hybridisation.....good blood lines.

[Swedenkakariki]

ok, now I understand :) do not worry, it's just two pieces they have there young birds like to sit sometimes - the adults are rarely there when they have lots of natural events to choose from :) I do not think they avoid sleeping in cage just because there are two narrow-bought sticks when there are at least 8-10 real branches to sit on larger diameter that is more suitable for them :) the kids like that sit on them sometimes as I said, perhaps a better grip on them then they would like to sit high when they left the boxes, I have noticed and appreciate more the narrower tines then - but the bigger they get - so they sleep outside the cage just like the others. The cage is 2x2x1 meters and always open.

I also have branches in different sizes are scattered between and on their shelves in the room to climb on - so there's lots of natural events in their rooms with the right size (the entire room is done as a cage) but they do not sleep on them either.

Thank you think the birds were fine - I had two unrelated couples so all is my breedings and some newly purchased for the new blood to the I retained :)

[Steptoe]

[Swedenkakariki]

they will soon cut down the trees here for the winter - so then I pick up new trees and branches for them. Will take home a little less to the chickens when too :)

[pabloc]

hey, nice birds you have, and Steps is right about the crown, the size is also very nice

what you mention about a male feeding another male I had it happen to me when I housed temporarily 4 males in the same aviary, they became somehow 2 pairs, feeding each other and so on.

[Swedenkakariki]