Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: absurd price
I heard somthing interesting on another forum i am on (australian)....a lady on there had seen HR kakarikis in a pet store (normal RF) for $200 does anyone else find this outrages I was at a big mel bird store a few weeks ago and they were selling breeding pairs for 250....and they were NOT big or paticulaly good looking birds....has there been a sudden price rise over here or somthing......I dont mean to be so crass and talk about price but these really shocked me
Kellie,
There has never been a set price structure for Kakariki unlike most other species of Parrot available here in Australia. It does make it difficult to know what prices to set especially when dealing in mutations.
As for hand raised birds that is a very difficult market to gauge. A normal Kakariki sells for appro. $50.00 (aus) and most people who handraise birds charge around $100.00 for their services so I guess including a mark up for the pet shop this price is probably close to the mark. With the price of everything going up it doesn't surprise me.
We handraise our own Kakariki but dont do them for anyone else due to business constraints and the time factor. But, I can assure you it is a very time consuming exercise and not something a lot of breeders are willing to do. It can be expensive buying the incubators, food etc and in the case of Kakariki they are not the easiest bird to hand raise from a very young age.
I was just shocked because as I have heard the "average" price for a HR is 80-100 ( I am talking normal RF no mutations ect.... i know they are a whole diff kettle of fish so to speak) I bought toby parent raised earlier this year from a bird shop for 60 and to see a "breeding pair" for 250 made me think maybe somthing has happened to make the prices so high...so quickly....I know pet shops have a huge mark up i got my HR green cheek from a breeder for 300 in Pshops here they sell them for 600 to 1000....Also sep question is there a price diff between the YF and RF (no mutation of course) the bird shop I was at had a pair of yf but no price....and they were really small and scruffy looking
The Yellow fronted Kakariki here in Australia took a big tumble in popularity a few years ago. This was because there are no mutations in the Yellow fronts whereas the Red fronts have many mutations and a lot of breeders chased the dollar while it was there.
As a result the numbers of pure Yellow fronts has dropped dramatically and suddenly they are hard to find. The price of Yellow fronts is now higher than Red fronts but it is hard to find pure birds.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: Kakariki costs
Hi Guys... here's my 2 cents worth again
Kaks are enjoying a new popularity here in Canada
Prices ( according to my shopping around ) average ( per bird )....
Plain Jane Green Red Front - 200 to 250 per bird in this area ( bought one Fri for this ammt ), up to 400 in Toronto. An Oakville breader tried to charge me $400 for Riki-Tiki-Tavi, but I talked him down to $300 ( I have receipts ).
Mutations ( ie Lutino ) 250 - 300 here... up to $450 in Toronto area
Yellow fronted are rare... I paid $250 for Fred because he was damaged ( missing all tail feathers at the time ) they can go up to $450 as well
Canadian Dollars for a "hand raised" bird. Sex is no bering. Most shops don't know sex for sure.
Don't know it this holds true for everywhere in the country, but Southwestern Ontario definately.
NZ, as mentioned previously, NZ the native country, we only have wilds Yellow and red Crown.
Since permits are required, I only know of 1 retailer that stocks Red Crown. Round $40 each $90 a pair, thu they are too young to to have paired off. AND from the looks of them they are inbreed and illegal hybrids.
Most sales are private..IF one can find buyers WITH permits. Then throw into equation that 99% of NZers have never heard of a kakariki. And those who have only a very small proportion have ever seen one. Plus one needs a approved aviary to hold them.
Then there are Conservation trusts that are crying out for stock and cant get any.
The market is basically limited to Zoos, who pay about $40 each. But that market is saturated.
So we either give them away to permit holders, or kill them. If Conservation organisations want them, we well give them away to them in the interests of Conservation...havnt done so as yet because for them DoC has to approve the birds, and that is a long winded bureaucratic process that is on a permanent go Sloooowwwww _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
I am glad I started this thread now it is very interesting to see the price in other areas of the world.......they are fairly cheap in the UK i would have thought the mutations would have cost more....but than again maybe it cost more to get a "true" bird over there
it is very interesting to see the price in other areas of the world
Yes Its quite an eye opener, useful thread to
but it is a hassle to covert each currency
If members want a currency convert added to the site, I think i can find one.
If u think one would be useful, post in the members section. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
I have done some checking in Australia and worked out a basic price guide for Kakariki here. These prices will vary between States and also depend on the quality of the bird but might at least give Aussie members an idea. Prices are per bird
(Aussie $s)
Normal Red fronted $50.00
Normal Yellow fronted $75.00
Red Fronted Mutations
Cinnamon $60.00
Cinnamon Pied (split) $75.00
Cinnamon Pied - Range from $100.00 - $400.00
Normal Pied (split) $75.00
Normal Pied - Range from $150.00 - $750.00
Dominant Pied (split) $500.00
Dominant Pied - Range from $1000.00 - $2,000.00
Black eyed clear - $5,000.00
Reverse Pied - $3,500.00
The above prices are for parent raised birds and hand raised stock seems to vary from $150.00 - $250.00 for normal red fronteds.
There is a big variation in the quality of birds being bred here and my advice would be that if you think you are buying a bargain be very careful especially when buying yellow fronteds. Always check that the birds are not hybrids. I will try and get some pics of the hybrids and post them on another thread so that members have something to compare.
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