Do kakarikis regurgitate a lot?

kirbydakak · Member Joined: Mar 25, 2014 Posts: 8

I often notice my kakariki regurgitating a lot. Sometimes I notice it up to 10-13 times a day. Is that normal for kakarikis to regurgitate that much? I appreciate any help.

Steptoe · Site Admin Joined: Oct 06, 2004 Posts: 4550

No
I would suspect something like crop worms.
Check with your local avaian vet asap as this may require worming directly into the crop.
If left can be fatal.

In the mean time couple drops invermectin on the back of the neck, repeat 10 to 12 days 2x
Wash down cage perches etc then rinse/ mist spray with 50/50 vinegar and water
Add apple cider vinegar to veggies on a regular basis to the chopped veggies... may also put some in the drinking water.

kirbydakak · Member Joined: Mar 25, 2014 Posts: 8

But I looked up crop worms and he didn't have any of those symptoms. Weight loss:nope, diarrhea, no, and the only thing he is doing is regurgitating.
I should also mention that a few weeks ago he hurt his foot and kept him at the bottom of the cage with no perches. When we put a perch in, he regurgitated 10 times a day for two days. Then he stopped for two weeks. Yesterday we put a perch in his cage and he regurgitated about 10 times yesterday and today. So it must have something to do with his perches right? I think he is just excited.

I also looked up 'kakariki crop worms' and noticed you said the same reply to many other things. In fact, the only info I found about it was from you. You claimed that kakariki yawning means crop worms, and I know for a fact that every parrot yawns from time to time. Its completely normal.

Steptoe · Site Admin Joined: Oct 06, 2004 Posts: 4550

Yep every parrot.. well animal will yawn every so often..excessive yawning, regurgitating.. that IS NOT normal..
Being on the ground for a while he may have picked up worms/ or crop infection ...
I ASSUME that u do not do regular maintenance as suggested with vinegar solns and apple cider vinegar...and if that is the case then it is very likely that the bird does have some worm or even bacterial crop infection

Im no vet.. I make no claims to be... but have been around parrots for many decades.

We have well over 10yrs ago had a parrot with the symptoms u describe, we took to the AVAIRIAN specialist vet.. the vet allowed us into his labs/ clinic to follow see testing , dyes under microscopes, checking feces for eggs etc... for which we now do as maintenance in our own aviaries.
One day the parrot was fine, within short time at the bottom of the flight.

We have experimented extensively and monitored for over a decade regular diets/ maintenance etc and have never had a sick bird in that time.
Birds/ parrots very often appear normal, yet before any obvious symptoms become apparent (like feeling the breast for condition) will suddenly become very sick and die very soon afterwards

So u can either sit back and poof poof the suggestions in ignorant bliss or be proactive and do something in the mean time before going off to the vet as suggested.

Bottom line your bird is constantly throwing up... if it was your child , wife or dog u would be off to the vet /doctor well before this.

the other reason maybe because the bird has taken close affection to you or a mirror and its hormonal...
if that was the case Im sure you would have described some other unusual behaviors ....can only suggest from what is described.

kirbydakak · Member Joined: Mar 25, 2014 Posts: 8

"Yep every parrot.. well animal will yawn every so often..excessive yawning, regurgitating.. that IS NOT normal.."
He hasn't been yawning...and the post I was talking about only had their bird yawn once a week. :/

"So u can either sit back and poof poof the suggestions in ignorant bliss or be proactive and do something in the mean time before going off to the vet as suggested."
I am not at all ignorant. I have stayed up all night before worrying about him, I have spend over 1000 dollars in the past couple of months for my animals. I care about them as if they were my own babies. I took him to the vet a few weeks ago and I really cannot afford to take him again.

"Bottom line your bird is constantly throwing up... if it was your child , wife or dog u would be off to the vet /doctor well before this."
I have taken him to the vet, for his foot. And he is regurgitating, not vomiting. And are you kidding me? How rude. I care about him so much that I have been thinking about him all day, even if he is perfectly fine. Please do NOT act like you know how much I care about my animals.

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I don't want to take him to the vet for something I don't absolutely have to and don't see any evidence that this is crop worm. I seriously doubt its a coincidence that he would only regurgitate when I put his perches in. The last time I put his perch in he regurgitated for two days, and suddenly he regurgitates for another two days when I put his perches up and move his cage? If he was sick wouldn't he be consistently regurgitating?

Steptoe · Site Admin Joined: Oct 06, 2004 Posts: 4550

OK u cant afford the vet again.. I can relate to that
So If I was in your position, all Im doing is telling u would be doing and why and what would be in the back of my mind...

Subject to also advising to check with a vet...considering a weekend was /is coming up (depending on what side of the international time line we are on)

The likelihood of any of it doing any harm is extremely unlikely to do any harm...
It is what we very strongly advise and along with other breeders, who also do as routine preventive maintenance... and also has a positive effect on the over well being of the birds, from how they stand, to colour intensity , tidy moulting etc.. We do this to any new birds regardless, and it is surprising how rescued birds from extreme conditions recover from mites , worms
No not having access to prescription drugs...based on results we and other have had....
u can try it or not...

When he regurgitates does he do it against something , perches , whatever or simply drops it randomly.

Are the perches dowel machined round wood or proper perches 1/2 to 1" in diameter from the forest floor?.. or drift wood off the beach ?

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kirbydakak · Member Joined: Mar 25, 2014 Posts: 8

Thanks, I will ask my breeder about doing that. I have never heard of it until now. So, is it hard to do, no serious side affects?

He regurgitates only on perches and bars. It is deficiently not vomiting, because it doesn't spew anywhere, he doesn't do it violently, and he doesn't go side to side. He has a variety of perches. What exactly do you mean close to the floor? Should all his perches be low? He has generic rounded wood perches, an big perch that is actually a branch, and a perch that trims his nails.

kirbydakak · Member Joined: Mar 25, 2014 Posts: 8

Excuse me, yes, his nature perch is driftwood. Is that okay?

Steptoe · Site Admin Joined: Oct 06, 2004 Posts: 4550