Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:14 am Post subject: raising exercise capacity
hi,
i am back again !!
My 3 kakariki who survived the bacterial infection episode are still alive. :) . very happy I went for a second opinion somewhere else. I had separated them all three, so no stress from each other. And peace to recover. Only, now when I let them out of their cage, they are not so friendly towards me anymore , and worse, after flying short time, they are fastly out of breath. So I think their exercise capacity has dropped pretty low being so long in the cages. Are there suggestions how I can raise this exercise capacity safely ?? My vet said they will have a thickened air sacs due to the infections they have been through , sais this could be a limiting factor.
2nd question: now I have two of 3 birds put together, to see if they like to breed or not. and they do , me happy. the third one named Raco, still alone in the cage, has become pretty agressive now. as like he is protecting HIS cage ? snapping my finger when I put my hand in to let him pick up sunflower seeds. I am having a new female bird now for a week. I tried to put her together with Raco. Raco immediately showed very agressive behaviour to her, and being very angry. I had to get her out of Racos cage. Raco himself was shaking , totally out of breath because of doing so much exercise by being this angry and agressive. :$ I am searching for methods to treat this agressive behaviour...
2nd question: now I have two of 3 birds put together, to see if they like to breed or not. and they do , me happy. the third one named Raco, still alone in the cage, has become pretty agressive now. as like he is protecting HIS cage ? snapping my finger when I put my hand in to let him pick up sunflower seeds. I am having a new female bird now for a week. I tried to put her together with Raco. Raco immediately showed very agressive behaviour to her, and being very angry.
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Yes he is very territorial... and has most likely become overly so which is not unusually under the circumstances...
We3 have suggested , many times that in these circumstances both should be introduced at the same time intro a new environment to get the best chances.
As to out of breath.. in all birds.. that is a huge worry.
weather it is because of previous infection or what ever it is not a good idea to breed off unfit birds... ie birds that would not survive in the wild.
?It is strange that all the birds have not fully recovered... that would also worry me considerably, enough to consider other things like maybe a genetic influence of some type.
I have yet to see a bird that has recovered for a sickness or crop / lung worms, to continue to be out of breath.... definitely not "unfit" we have seen many cage birds "unfit" released be it in a large aviary, house out even outside. Other than taking flight then getting bearings ..'rest' but never out of breath.
This is not what u want to hear thu.
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no, not so good news indeed. I thought by now, they should be recovered after two months. Normally they are not from the same bloodline.. so don't know if that can rule out genetic influence.
anyway, the new bird ( i got her because the other one died soon after I bought them) was flying around when I tried to catch her for putting back in the cage. It seemed to me as if she was breathing more quickly after a while also, needing couple seconds of rest ( could be just me also)
The vet told me that they have thickened air sacs that are still present, even after antibiotic therapy (something like scars in the airways), and under raised stress circumstances, they can get into breathlessness more rapidly and have recurrent infections. I do especially see this more rapid breathing when I try to catch them and the birds won't let me and fly around in the room. Am I putting to much stress to them by catching the birds , driving them into breathlessness? when they are just hopping around in their cages, I don't see anything abnormal.
the two birds which are yet together ( named Spot and Nalu) are showing spontaneous mating behaviour (like feeding each other) , i wonna say i am not pushing it. don't wont to either. If I see they show this behaviour it's nice, otherwise so be it.
I do especially see this more rapid breathing when I try to catch them and the birds won't let me and fly around in the room. Am I putting to much stress to them by catching the birds , driving them into breathlessness?
This is different... most birds will appear 'puffed' /breathless when one chases them around.. thats normal...
older posts we describe how to get birds to go back to cages
basically develop a territorial behavior in them towards their cage... and darken the room down so they think night is coming and they go back top roost/ security...
Catching quickly is thinking about what u are doing, watching their body language and a bit of looking the one direction and throwing the ball in another... if u know what I mean.And the size of the net.
With a little practice one can simply stand beside them, slight distraction when they look away , and a sudden grab with the hand...[/b] _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
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