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Peter
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Olive Kakariki

I"ve seen many pictures of these birds but today I saw them in the flesh on a birdfair. I don't know whether they have a Dark-, Violet- or Greyfactor. The breeder who was selling them asked 300 for the DF birds(like in the pic). The SF birds 100. The latter appeared no more different than a normal.

Picture made by Johan De Vries from Holland
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject:

Things are really looking good for kakariki breeders in Europe. The dark factor bird to the new blue birds, wow possably violet blues double factor. These colours where just a dream a week ago but not now. I am getting a bit a head of myself but it is all possible now all be it in Europe.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject:

Peter, it would be very interesting to see the wing-tip blue feathers, I think it would help figure out what mutation we are dealing with.
If it's the grey mutation I would expect the blue feathers to be grey, if it's the dark factor or violet it would be more difficult to figure it out.

Do you know if Inte Onsman / MUTAVI have made a feather research of these birds?

What is the feather condition of the birds? Usually the first generations of these mutations don't have the best feather condition, especially the DF form.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject:

Pablo, that's a good observation. The Blue feathers look somewhat dullish Blue. This would imply it isn't a darkfactor. Another possibility is it could be a Misty mutation. SF birds are slightly paler than a normal but DF birds have a Olive green. However, the breeder from the pic now claims this mutation behaves recessive. The birds are born with black eyes and have grey down. We can also put it is a recessive grey. Time will tell.

To my knowledge Mutavi doesn't do investigate Kakariki.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject:

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To my knowledge Mutavi doesn't do investigate Kakariki.


I guess it's partly due to the fact that we didn't get any new mutations in the last few dozen years.

The misty mutation, I read about it in Dirk's Lovebirds book but, I still can't really tell what's particular about that mutation. I also saw a few swift parrots (in pics only).

Btw... another thing that I just noticed is that the legs are very light, flesh-color, unlike the dark-grey of the wildcolor kakariki. Could this be due to this particular bird being split to pied or is it effect of the mutation?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:42 am    Post subject:

I have a pic of this mutation next to a normal and there is no difference in color of the legs. In normals they can vary from brown to black. Note the nails are still black.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject:

All our wilds .. all blood lines slightly in different shades of grey....I would love to have some with black legs..they look nice.
After over 1000 birds thats all we get other than occassionally the odd pink toe

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