Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:19 am Post subject: Eye Problem?
Riki's eye's look a little sore today, very watery and red around the edges. I have notices he rubs the side of his head against the perches a lot. Could this cause the problem, or could it be an infection? I'm going to take him to the vets tomorrow I think anyway just in case.
Thanks! Mandy
Eye infections on occasions can be hard to cure, usually antibiotics are used.
Birds have a tendency to show illness, and can 'go down' very quickly.
Getting to a vet is important.
Kakariki are not prone to eye infections, so I would follow this up ASAP.
Try to identify the cause, a sharp wire, or could be something introduced into the flight or a small feather that has not formed correctly and the infection is secondary.
We regularly mist spray our aviaries with a 50/50 sol'n of vinegar and water which over the last few yrs seems to have put such things down to a nil level. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
what do you mean "mist" mist the birds mist the wire or the whole aviary.....do you mean it has seem to cut probs down because it is a disenfectant?????
Mist as in a fine spray...I use a 1 1/2 l pump up sprayer with a mist nozzle.
Its actually a pollen sprayer for Kiwi Fruit.
I mist everything, so the surfaces are just damp...If one of the bids happen to fly past then they I give a quick squirt into the air so it will fly thru it.
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do you mean it has seem to cut probs down because it is a disinfectant?????
I don't know, vinegar used be used for many things before the big chemical companies and their propaganda (marketing) has convinced us over the last 100 yrs that we needed high powered toxic chemicals to disinfect and clean stuff.
I was originally an industrial chemist in the early 70s, specialising in polishes, cleaners. and disinfectants for a very large American Multi national Company... I refuse to have many products of this nature in our home, and if we do..never use a sprayer.
Our children would be pushing to have 3 or 4 days off school a year between all of them, we just don't get sick.
Cider vinegar (or vinegar) about a teaspoon a day, acts as a ph buffer in our blood system. When we catch a virus or bacteria our blood ph will change slightly. It is this mechanism that the virus/bacteria then uses to create and environment to propagate its self. Maintaining a constant ph results in at worst feeling a little off colour or not getting sick, instead of getting really crook.
In nature birds and animals have access to vinegar products from sources as nectar that has fermented, the the alcohol turning to vinegar. (little over simplified)
So I have used vinegar for the last few yrs..
I don't know if it is that which prevents us loosing birds/low or nil worm egg counts or just good hygiene practises.
Some ppl use things like Jeyes Fluid...Jeyes fluid is made from saponified creosote/ and and resins (boiled up with caustic soda to make a liquid soap) Creosote is extremely high in phenols that are some of the most toxic chemical around.
The only time I would use such a product is if I have a paint brush that has gone rock hard and soak it for a week Or If an aviary had a serious contamination and need and extreme and full sterilisation. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
I was asking because I use viniager to clean my cages aswell and all the perches a good scrub (but not on the birds).....I work in childcare and at one centre i was at we used vinigar as a table disinfectant, and toys ect...this is why i was asking...when you said mist i didnt know if you ment a mist over the birds like a shower or as a cage clean down/disinfect
That's a good tip - I'll try that, I don't use vinegar as a rule to clean the cages, but I will try it - Thanks. And I shall take Riki to the vet today.
I dont use to clean...
keep in mind clean and sterilze are different
Clean is removing visable foreign matter
Sterilize is the killing of bacteria spore and other live organisms
Thu many modern cleaners do both actions at once.
If also read thru the posts on diet I also use apple cider vinegar in small amounts in the veggie mix. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Oh sorry I see what you mean! Well I clean the cages and steralise with my steam cleaner.
The vet said she thinks it is an infection (There was no scratch on the eye etc), so is treating it with a cream, and I have to take him back in a week. Because he's rubbed his eye raw on the perches, she wants to test for mites if it hasn't cleared up in a week - His left eye is bald round the edges now
So just wait to see how he get's on -
Has to have the cream on twice a day - Sure he'll love the attention
To check for mites use a strong magnifiing glass, check feathers and skin
What is the active ingrediant and/or the brand of cream?
Sry about hyjacking your thread, we are back on subject now...I think _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
The vet has given me Fucithalmic Vet, viscous eye drops (Oh, I thought it was cream). Can't see the active ingredient, maybe Fusidic Acid ph, or Benzalknoium chloride? Not very technical !
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