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Lindsey
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Confused about using herbs

Hi!

I'm confused with some herbs,
Here I got the information that "rosemary, mint and basil" are a good defense against mites etc?

But... on a German forum I've read, that you may give basil only once now and then, because of the high content of essential oils?
And for rosemary it's also forbidden to give it to them due to the high content of oils,

I'm not sure about the mint, I can't find information on it, is it really safe?? I really don't dare to use it now, I don't want to poison my bird.. He is now also getting a treatment for bloodmite etc... so is it even okay to use herbs when he's on medicine?

Thank you all very much for your help! :)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:20 am    Post subject:

Use the "quick search" block on the left
We have rosemary and mint around our aviaries, and all the herbs u mention above is included in their veggie diet...
Also look up apple cider vinegar and vinegar as cure and maintenance prevention.

And a thread "what do u feed..."

Lavender I would stay way from

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:40 am    Post subject:

It's true that basil contains high amounts of essential oil. And so is Mint and Rosemary. Essential oils are the defence mechanism of plants against bacteria, fungus and mould. In high amounts, Kakariki do not ingest it but spread it over their feathers.


You can also buy extract of essential specially for birds. http://www.wilderstore.com/fr/quiko-med-75-grams-fungal-and-bacterial-infections.html
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject:

Thank you very much Steptoe and Peter!

Then I guess it is safe to use,
What is strange is, that one of the german forum does give lavender to his birds Shocked

Of the rosemary, do you only give the leaves?? or is the stem okay awell? :)

Soo, to give these 3 herbs once in 2 weeks is okay?? or once a week? (I only have one bird so, I will Always have leftovers haha!

Thank you very much!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:58 am    Post subject:

Indeed we give lots of flowering lavender, the kaks love it. And our kakariki are very healthy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la0HsIj4Mgw

Thats a video
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:05 am    Post subject:

.. and another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUZv0Cd1vI
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:28 am    Post subject:

Georg wrote:
Indeed we give lots of flowering lavender, the kaks love it. And our kakariki are very healthy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la0HsIj4Mgw

Thats a video


Thank you! :D

Well, I guess it's no harm then! do you give it every week when they are in bloom?? or just once per month? ^_^
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:44 am    Post subject:

When lavender is in bloom we give it dayly, the seed too. The leaves of this plant are not interesting for our birds but you should look into their eyes, if we do not bring levender one day. The same is with Hyssopus or Oregano.
But we always only give the flowers. You also may try the flowers / seeds of chamonmile, yarrow, mentha, coriander, fennel, salvia, agastachia, dill weed, basil, salvia...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject:

Here is an older video with roman chamanmileflowers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HSutvc7bN6s
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:06 am    Post subject:

Georg wrote:
The leaves of this plant are not interesting for our birds but you should look into their eyes, if we do not bring levender one day. The same is with Hyssopus or Oregano.


Can you tell me more about why to look in their eyes? ^_^
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:28 am    Post subject:

Oh - o.K it's a kind of saying in german and i-see i can not translate it directly to english. It means that they are waiting for it every day a "must-do" for us. Every day few flowers for each bird, not such great ammounts as shown in that video
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:54 am    Post subject:

Georg wrote:
Oh - o.K it's a kind of saying in german and i-see i can not translate it directly to english. It means that they are waiting for it every day a "must-do" for us. Every day few flowers for each bird, not such great ammounts as shown in that video


Ahhhh! I know what you mean! :D Thanks haha!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:29 am    Post subject:

Interesting on the lavender...thanks
If the birds want/ need it they will use it, if not they will go do something else.
Herbs oils, vinegar apple cider vinegar, go hand in hand of an essential constant, varied balanced diet that is required for a long healthy life.
Not doing so results in 99% of the problems people come to these forums with... bet it mites worms or just plain run down.

People like ourselves, Peter, Georg don't have issues and some of our birds are getting up to over 15 yrs old... females produced 140 adult birds and the cocks over 2x that.
Much of we have learnt has been from experience over several decades, trials experimenting and sharing information over the last decade or so.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:51 am    Post subject:

We always do feed small amounts of a lot, the birds shall choose what they want / need. So we can't say what ist the favoured food to give, it depends on the season and the conditions of life. Mostly they look for food they didn't eat for longer time.

By the way - the ethereal oil of lavender is highly potential in antibiotic use.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject:

Wow! Thanks for all the informations Georg!! It's very useful!!
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