Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: LUTINO BABIES WITH NO RED CREST
I have 4 strong babies LUTINO with no crest color. They have just a clear yellow head. Now i have just been told this is very unusual and needs careful planning to, get the best results.
ANY THOUGHTS?
I will try to learn how to post pictures so as to make them visual.
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: Little bit of red
They are starting to develop a little bit of red on the crown. The parents are a
Lutino cock and cinnamon hen.
Would i be better off pairing the young with cinnamon or as long as they had some cinnamon blood?
to upload pictures you can either attach them to a post (you have in the lower part of the post function a section to attach files) or you could either upload them to a website like imageshack or picasa and paste a link here.
About your young kakariki... youngsters usually take a couple of days so that the pinfeathers in the forehead start to open and show the crown, but if they are yellow-crowned they only have a very narrow band right above the cere.
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:02 am Post subject: NORMAL SIZE
Steptoe wrote:
Could you email me the pics please?
How big are they?
I have off the beginning of the week and will figure out the picture sending over that time.
They are a good size. The only different thing is they are more friendly than normal babies.
Steps meant what is the size of the pictures, as some e-mail services have a limit size.
Feel free to ask anything about how to edit the pics, etc... and I'm also sure you can also find some step-by-step tutorial on the web for a given program (I suggest for instance irfranview, as it's free and a very nice program).
There is a mutation in cockatiels that makes the orange cheek-patch become yellow. I don't see why not this could happen in kakariki, but then all the other red spots in the body should be also yellow. Check up the thigh spots for instance.
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: SENT
I sent pictures to the adminstrator AT kakariki DOT net Some came back.
(note moderator:
E-mail link changed ... adding email addresses to posts attracts spam bots. They automatically scan web sites to find them and send spam)
I have just sent you a pm.
btw.... some browsers have a function that when you right-click over an "email-me" button you can select a copy e-mail address option
(firefox and google chrome allow for that).
If you still have trouble sending them by e-mail, use an image hosting website like imageshack or picasa, but I strongly suggest you learn basic image edition, it comes in very handy. For me in the beginning was a bit difficult to understand all the concepts but after you learn the basics it's very rewarding to be able to edit your pics.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject: LUTINO PICTURES SOLVED
found out the problem was my windows mail. It just refused to send any pictures at all.
I used my siste-in laws hotmail and, straight away they went.
Sent 2 pictures to Pablo.
Looks like 2 cocks and 2 hens at this point.
I am just about to give them a separate aviary with some BEC splits To hopefully get a pool of splits
tail I received your pics, I had to size them down to 550px that is the max allowed by the forum.
Unfortunately I have to agree with Steptoe, those chicks are yellow crowns with traces of hybridization, I'd humbly suggest make those birds available for the pet market and I'm sure you can find some birds of better quality for your breeding program.
Maybe Kevin (cattscapes here in the forum) can help you find pure yellow or red crowns.
thx for the explanation, I think then this may explain this situation. I didn't know there were such heavy throw-backs.
I thought yellow crowns were relatively common in Aussie. Here in Europe there are very few breeders and it's difficult to find good quality yellow crowns. Red crowns are relatively common but the problem is finding birds without traces of hybridisation, and the worst part is that a lot of people doesn't take conscience on this issue.
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: NOT SO
I know all the stock that the guy i bought my birds from has and, there are no Yellow crown in them. As a matter of fact i, have seen every bird he has produced. The father is a full red crown Lutino and the mother is a Red crown cinnamon.
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: BREEDER
The breeder was PATRICK 4 birds.
I have some other lines from Melbourne stock (split BEC) that i want to put with them but, if they are throwbacks it, is very far back in their lines.
They are sitting on a new batch of eggs now so, i will keep you advised on what they produce.
then if that's the case I'd suggest you just discard from your breeding program those birds that are not up to standards (in terms of crown and cheek shape and color), in future generations the likeliness of throwbacks will be even lower. Maybe if you use those siblings with no red crown the resulting offspring is not interesting, although if they are already on eggs.... let's see how they result.
So far I have been really lucky myself and I'm already breeding my 3rd generation of home-grown birds and the crown, eyebrows, eye color, etc.. has improved from the original birds, and I have not had any set-backs in that aspect. Obviously some birds are better than others but so far none of them show clear signs of hybridization.
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To hopefully get a pool of splits
