I have discussed this in old threads... We have experimented with many poisonous plants with the view that if these captive breed over many generations bird got into the wild , would they die because eating poisonous fruit.
Also most of these plants / fruits were introduced plants from other parts of the world
After what one can only describe as a very quick investigation, they then never went back to those branches hanging in the end of the flight...and they where in the flight for 4 or 5 days...
And as to ppl loosing escapees... 9 time out of 10 they dont, but rather scare the poor little birds away with their panicking antics.
When a bird escapes, remain calm and quiet... the bird goes and perches in a high ish sort of place, do not disturb it as it is orienteering its self in its surroundings... getting its bearings...land marks....
It will always consider its cage as its secure and safe home... so pout it outside in an open space where it can see it... maybe tie a trip string to the door and go to work for the day.
A saying my Grandfather had decades ago..."count to 10 REEAALL SLOOOWLLYY... then panic in a orderly civilized manner." _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
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The proplem of the genus prunus is that they contain cyano-glycosides, this compounds change to cyanic acid if eaten from most animals.
On one hand cyanic acid is very toxic but on the other hand it's a perfect antioxidans, too. So always there is a range from "good for health" to toxic. It s a question of the dose of the drug. Apple seeds. flaxseeds .. .. are containig those cyono-glycosides , too.
cyono-glycosides are compounds disigned by the nature to prevent seed from to be eaten. Some animal adapted to this question of evolution. Parrots (Kakariki) as seedeaters are able to stand much more cyanic compounds as .. for example humans.. . But there are no valid studies of the dose they would stand, and for myselve i do not see my birds as participants of a study.
So small amounts could be good for health, and greater deadly, but the definition of "greater" is not given.
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:24 am Post subject: sweetcorn and peas
i had a question.. for feeding sweetcorn.. Usually when I buy it for myself I use canned sweetcorn. For the kikes is that dangerous ?, should it be fresh ? because in Belgium it is not easy to find that. same question about peas etc.
Well caned sweet corn and peas are generally way over cooked before u even open the can... part of the canning process...
Dont see it would be an issue, other than most the nutrients would be damaged...
Surely u can get frozen peas and sweet corn ?
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Im sure I have posted this before
Chop fresh veggies into approx pea sizes... reduces amount and wastage, saves lot time in cleaning...
and use a very sharp knife...as a chef or butcher would use.. sharp cuts makes the food last much longer.
Then add the frozen peas and sweet corn and mix in well ASAP... this drops the temp of the cut veggies stopping the natural deterioration process.
Then store in the fridge...a good fridge will last 4 days
Frozen veggies in this country are free flow, pourable out of the bag, not one big frozen lump _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Thanks for your forum discussions - they are really helpful as I got my first Kakariki in mid December.
I have tried to give her very small/chopped up green food (peas, sweetcorn, beans & leaves) as described in the these posts.
However, she refuses to eat these, even when this is the only food I give her - she waits until the seed mix comes back. I'm worried this way she is not getting a varied enough diet.
She must be happy enough as she is on her 7th egg in the last few weeks (its only her, so from other posts I think she likes us ) but she has started scratching her neck and is loosing feathers there.
Do you have any tips on how to encourage her to eat her greens? Also any tips on scratching her neck feathers?
The problem is when captive birds are raised they are hand feed with commercial hand raising formula or raised by parants on non natural or incorrect diets.
It can take months weaning birds onto a natural balanced diet... no different to getting children raised on crap. junk food to eat healthy good food..
Use the quick search box on the let for "weaning" _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
In sure it's probably been covered before but when I type in garlic it brings up a whole bunch of answers! I just wanted to know how to feed my kak garlic - should I leave as a clove or crush and mix with other herb and veg?
Its usually because they have been reared on a diet more suited for the traditional parrot/ seed diets of the rest of the world species... not under standing just how uniquely many of our NZ species have evolved... without mammals.. behaviour right thru to diet.
Its like raising children on a certain diet,be it junk food, or of a certain part of the world.. then pout a different diet in front of them... even as adults and they will not eat it.
And like different populations around the world, the variations in diets from the normal overall balanced diet usually results in everything from shortened life span to inherent health issues.
And like children .. 'weaning' them of say a high sugar, fat, commercial processed carbohydrate with inherent dibeities, obesity and other health issues takes a little discipline, and introducing good options and removing junk food over a period of time
It has take us between 3 and 6months to get some birds to an acceptable balance....and others where raised by parents who are on good diets eat very little seed, near any at all. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
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